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Requests | Ideas | Commissions
Requests & Commissions
Requests
❖ Requests are free! ❖ A request is anything that's kinda vague, like asking for more thread trackers or a muselist with dropdown elements. Something that you want made publicly available and wouldn't be a big project for me. ❖ Requests are prioritized beneath something I'm already working on and commissions. Essentially, I'll get to it when I can, but I will get to it. ❖ If you want a biosheet, layout, something personalized, or something only you can use, then it would be a commission.
Commissions
❖ I take all commission payments through my PayPal. You can also consider joining the Patreon for exclusive content or checking out my Ko-Fi Shop for previously exclusive codes! ❖ General Codes $3: Navigations, muselists, playlists, etc. ❖ Personalized Biosheets $15: Images of your character/PB will be included. ❖ Extras:❖ Journal Layouts $45: Includes icon page, tag page, archive, and mobile friendliness. ❖ Editing Existing Layouts $30: If you want something that's already around personalized for your purposes.❖ Plurk Layouts $50: Can include animated effects, specialized dash, dark mode appearance, etc. The Chrome extension Plurk Jailbreak is recommended to make the layout look as intended but is not necessary. ❖ Game Info Pages $80: Includes navigation, premise, rules/faq, applications, reserves, hiatus/drop, event templates, mod comment templates, taken, player contact, locations/businesses/employment, abilities/traits, profiles, advertisements, and anything else that your game may need. If you only need certain pages overhauled and not the whole package, we can work out a price on a case-by-case basis. ❖ Larger Commissions $90+: Game apps, websites, front-end UI/UX design, back-end database setups, etc etc. Price varies based on a case by case basis and I give no guarantees that I'll take your commission. But if you have an idea of something you want to get done beyond the scope of DreamWidth, I can probably help you. Largely depends on my skillset and free time. If you want examples of the things I do, check out my GitHub. |
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Either way, this is a bit of a bigger project (with according price) so I understand if you don’t have time right now! I just wanted to check. (But if you happen to be more interested, an html layout/styles for a neocities landing page or a carrd pro page and a rules/guidelines page would be nice to coordinate too.)
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For the journal layout, I can make it look very close to the layout you currently have. We can use the same overall design and color palette, unless you want to go in slightly different directions regarding all that, including the font choices.
As for pinned posts, Dreamwidth will allow free accounts two pinned posts maximum, but a paid account is allowed up to five. Regardless, we can either fit everything you'd like into those two posts OR I can just add custom designs to any entry you wish regardless of if it's pinned or not. It just won't always be able to be at the top unless I actually move it to a different part of the screen. If that sounds confusing, I can try to make a mock-up to show you what I mean.
Also, making an extra navigation code for all this is absolutely do-able. We can see what you think of the layout first before deciding on that, though, if you'd like.
As for the other stuff, those would take awhile to do. I don't mind doing them at all, but it could take over a week at the very least depending on the design and amount of content. Neocities is do-able but I think it would take longer to create something there than with Carrd Pro, but I also think you'd have more creative freedom by using Neocities.
(Quick Disclaimer: I haven't used either of these before to build full websites with, but that's what I'm gathering just from the few minutes of research I've done. I'm very interested in trying something new, though, if you're up for that, lol.)
All of that together would be somewhere around $140, just from a quick estimate. And while I do have the time to do them, the turnaround could be a couple of weeks or more. Of course, I'd keep you in the loop with updates as often as I can, but that's what we're looking at. Either way, thanks again for your interest! I hope you've been well!
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Thank you! I think $140 ish as an estimate sounds great, and there’s no particular rush so hopefully that helps!
Would it maybe make more sense to take it in sections? I mentioned all of the pieces so there’s a sense of the scope, but the Dreamwidth is probably the most concrete so maybe starting with that would also allow the estimate for the unfamiliar portions to adjust accordingly (I totally understand if it would ge more).
And I wanted to reply with more but I’m running late! My apologies; I’ll reply more later.
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Anyway, let me know what you think! It can all be changed however you like, so let me know if you have any ideas or if there's anything you'd like to see a different way just to test. Thank you!
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Edit: at a quick glance on mobile the layout is gorgeous!
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notes
Okay so for the two above in blockquote; I was working off desktop view, Firefox (no extensions implemented) on Windows. But then I went back and checked my phone (iOS Safari) and either of these were issues. I'm so puzzled! This is what the tags and entry text look like on my computer:
- in mobile view, I'm not sure where the sidebars would display - could it be at the bottom and top?
- I'm guessing that it's hard to style the search field since that belongs to a paid journal; is there any way to know what that would look like?
this is absolutely just a thrown out idea, but do you know if Dreamwidth supports @media (prefers-color-scheme: dark)? (for example this simple website style https://github.com/cadars/john-doe/blob/main/style.css) if it does, I realize this would be an added cost to implement!
That's all I have at this stage (before getting into pinned post navigation code etc.)!
Also, to finally repond to your first reply properly, on further reflection, I think Neocities would make more sense as it would be more flexible and allow for extra pages, etc., and not be locked in as much. I'm primarily thinking of being able to put the community rules there, on a page, rather than using a craft document for that. Carrd uses a lot of anchors and targets with css, and I previously found this html & style pairing that's a similar structure, in case that's of interest https://github.com/cadars/john-doe All to say, I understand that neocities will take longer!
Also, picking back up on payment, I'm happy to pay in sections, or pay the estimated $140 now and any addition time/work (such as neocities taking longer) at the end, or whatever you prefer! Just let me know.
And again, I'm very sorry that I didn't see your comment replies (Dreamwidth has done this to me one time before and not given me any notifications for replies to something); I absolutely wasn't intending to disregard your time and work!
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About the project:
- The vertical spacing on the text of entries can be changed, no problem.
- I'm not sure what's happening with the text, but it must be a Firefox issue. That's no problem. I can absolutely find something else, and also make it more legible, too. The issue you're seeing mainly comes down to font size, so we can work with that.
- I can totally put those menus at the top and/or bottom in mobile, yes. I'll work on those designs.
- The search field can be edited! I don't have any paid journals right now, but I can find something and edit it in browser to show you what it should look like via screenshot.
- I've actually never tried using @ media like that with Dreamwidth before. I can totally test it out and see what happens, but I'd bet Dreamwidth does support it. I'll let you know! In the case that it does, do you have a palette in mind for a dark mode? I typically go with something that's more low contrast than just dark since most users have it on for accessibility purposes, but even low contrast palettes vary so much. Let me know what you think about that!
- Neocities works! I'll familiarize myself with it in the meantime before we get rolling on that part of the project. And as for that github link, I'm super familiar with that style, yeah, lol. I made my own portfolio site pretty similarly but with regular anchor links instead of using them as "fake" pages. But anyway!
- Ko-Fi works but it likes to take out a fee. I'm fine with continuing to use it, but I'm mostly using Paypal for payment these days. As for installments, you can do so however you feel most comfortable. Since we haven't started on the website part yet, I can understand if you want to hold off on that part until later.
Lastly, I'll create an update on the layout and send it to you in the next few days. I'm glad you like the direction so far! Thank you!
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(Anonymous) 2024-03-17 03:13 am (UTC)(link)I sent 50 by PayPal for the quasi-first step, so hopefully you received it!
I'm sorry that Firefox is being a pest. It think the vertical line spacing is a Firefox issue as well, unfortunately.
I have some extra DW points; if that would be helpful for testing those two elements, I'd be happy to send them over (just let me know).
If dark mode does work, I was wondering if a light purple & dark grey or something like that would look good, in your opinion? Very open to suggestion here!
For Neocities, sounds good! Generally-speaking, I was thinking of an html layout/skeleton & a css file so that additional pages (well, really just the rules page at this point) can use the same css. I'm not sure if it could borrow some from the Dreamwidth layout in terms of styling?
Thanks again!
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I updated the layout preview! The vertical line spacing on the entry content was heightened, the modules now (should) appear on mobile, and hopefully that text issue with Firefox is fixed for you now. I changed the font on the entry footers. I also changed the font size on the layout overall, so let me know if you'd like for it to be go back to the bigger version.
I was able to edit the search bar! It turns out that users with free accounts can't use/see the search module at all, whether the journal they're looking at has a paid account or not. That was an interesting revelation. But I was able to get the piece of code from a friend and preview it on my local machine. This is what it will look like on the layout.
Also, it turns out that Dreamwidth doesn't support "prefers-color-scheme" after all. I'm sorry about that. We could still use this idea for the main site, though.
Speaking of that Neocities site, making a basic website like that is no problem. And we can absolutely take attributes from this layout and carry them over. Sort of connect the theme in terms of styling, you know?
Anyway, let me know what you think. Sorry the turn around took a minute. ♥
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The line spacing looks good on Firefox now, and still looks good on mobile too! The font size is a little small on my desktop though, so I think the bigger size might work better.
The only thing I noticed is that the top navigation wraps oddly on iOS Safari so I'm not sure why it's doing that.
That is really strange about the search module; I didn't realize that. I'm sorry that it was so inconvenient! The preview of the search code looks great though.
That's too bad about the prefers-color-scheme but I'm not surprised to hear that; too bad! Yes, I think it would still be nice for the main site, especially since the rules will probablly be linked directly from Discord too, so some people might already have night mode on there. And I'm glad that layout attributes can be carried over to the website; having a theme that's connected in terms of style would be really great!
So, all to say this looks really great, and I just have the note about the mobile navigation and the bigger font size. And again, please take your time!
Oh, I meant to also add that on iOS the little blue buttons in the control strip (log out and go) are absolutely adorable; I think they look lovely!
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As for the layout, I fixed the things you mentioned. The font size should be back to where it was before. The navigation links had been giving me that problem, but I thought I got rid of it from mobile view. It should definitely be gone now, though. The links will be changing size, so let me know if you think they shrink too much.
I'm glad you're liking this so far! ♥
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That’s completely understandable! Maybe other people will be interested in something like this in the future, and so the timing of working on this could be helpful. (As always, I’m very happy if you’d like to share any of this work if that’s something you’d like to do.)
The layout looks great! Very exciting ☆彡
Thanks again!
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Also, I checked out Neocities. I can 100% make a website with this. It's very intuitive. I know you're wanting the general design to be like the layout, but do you have any further ideas on how you want it to look/all of the things you made need it for? Much like the layouts, I can whip up a mock-up for you based on the look you're wanting and we can go from there.
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- the background and "box" of content
- the same shift from desktop width to mobile width
- probably the same header and body text styling?
- I'd thought of maybe going in the direction of pinky reds or purples for dark mode as well, but I'm not 100% on colour theory!
- I think single column would be fine, because a simple site seems to make the most sense.
- for basic navigation (home page, instructions/rules. link to sign up, check in/out, and posting order? - down the line we might make the sign up/check-in/out and posting orders pages?) would copying the little rectangles from the dreamwidth navigation make sense? Or is there a better approach?
- the one downside to neocities over carrd is that you have to bring your own social icons - any chance you could help with the social icons we currently use on the carrd? https://shiritori.carrd.co/
- for the home page, I'll aspirationally put the "history" stuff on fanlore, so that page won't have much on it (in case that makes a difference for styling/layout decisions) but I'll probably add a "quickstart" guide to the home page as a kind of about
- the rules, on the other hand, are pretty long (https://zoos-take-r6p.craft.me/Yr3FY98laTpb9j) so a long page should probably look okay too (I'll probably add a table of contents at the top and use anchor links)
- I'd mentioned a code layout and static post (conceptually like what you have on this community) for the dreamwidth and then forgot to pick up on it again - is it possible to do something that will be a grid of 2 by 2 on desktop but flex or somthing so that it's 1 by 4 (so, vertical column) on mobile? Also, I'm not sure --it's probably best to just have those be litle blurbs and links to full posts (or even tags, like we currently have in the sidebar), rather than having the information there (?) - especially since it would be too long. I'm probably not making much sense - would it be helpful if I drew it or found a similar concept on dreamcodes?
Thank you as always!
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Anyway! About Neocities! Replying to your points in no particular order:
- re: dark mode. I can work with reds/purples for the dark mode. There is some color theory that goes into it but we can totally work with that for an overall theme.
- re: navigation. I could duplicate the links at the top of the layout easily, yes. However, with it being so many links, we might want to stretch the navigation across the page more, like a bar or something. I'll play with designs and see what looks best.
- re: icons. I found most of the icons over on one of the libraries I use, Simple Icons. The only one I can't seem to find is Dreamwidth. I'll keep looking, but I can still easily replace it with a similar looking icon.
- re: content lengths. The pages will be dynamic so that you can add as much or as little as you want. With the rules being long, using anchor links is a great idea. For that one particularly (or for every page), I could add a floating "top of page" link in the corner somewhere for easy access.
- re: site layout. I totally forgot about the static post. But making things flexible from 2x2 to 1x4, yes, that's totally do-able. As for the actual content, maybe we can play with a few designs and see what looks nicer/what's easiest for you to update and go from there. If you do see a concept you want to go for, though, links or pictures would be helpful. I'm so bad at visualizing ideas, lol. Also, you mentioned wanting a single column up above, and I think that's with everything in one space? Like columns within the column? Sorry, just want to make sure I'm picturing it right.
Regardless, I'll start working on this and get back to you in the coming days with a mock-up. ♥
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for the static post: Thank you for your questions! I took some time to look at different examples (part of the delay; I'm sorry!) so I have a better idea of what I was thinking about.
-I realized that we'd only need three "elements" but it would be great to have them go from three in a row landscape on desktop (if that fits?) to three in a column on mobile, and after looking at some dreamcodes pages it seems like flex does allow for that, so that would be really neat!
- For what we need to present, it would be a reshuffle and sign ups element (which I might toggle between just sign ups & reshuffle and sign ups, but that would be on me), a posting order element, and a rules" element. (I've linked to our relevant tag on the community.) The images I've used on the posts would maybe be too large, so if that's the case I would re-edit them to size/dimension once that's set.
- I like the collapsible element of your [50] Dropdown Navigation, and the way the click-elements on PEEPERS, a collapsing muse list code (via dreamcodes) are images. What I tentatively envisioned was an image for each of the three elements, with code styling in a manner that complements the dreamwidth community layout. When clicked, each element would expand to provide a small blurb and link. So, in the case of the rules, the amount of text (just to roughly determine what would look good) would be what the dreamwidth profile bio has + a little bit) and a link to the full rules page on neocities. For reshuffle and sign ups, a little blurb and links to both forms. For posting order, a little blurb and links to the team list and sonic list.
- It would be nice if the links in the exanded blurb could be styles so they're more "button-like" if that makes sense.
- for styling, the way there's a frame around the userpics on the dreamwidth layout, and the way iOS has cute blue buttons for log in and search in the dw site nav might be helpful starting design elements? but if you've thought of something else I'd be very glad to see that!
Bringing it all around, is that something that would be feasible for the static post?
back to neocities:
- dark mode: reds/purples sounds great!
- nav: I could duplicate the links at the top of the layout easily, yes. However, with it being so many links, we might want to stretch the navigation across the page more, like a bar or something. I'm good with whichever seems better!
- icons: the simple icons look great! for dreamwidth, depending on the colour-scheme I could do a transparent icon that we could just host, or I'm not sure if it's possible to copy the svg from carrd (https://shiritori.carrd.co/) Or a subsitution of course! (the abbot logo looks surprisingly like a d, or the swirl of the dreamstime is a bit reminiscent)
- content lengths: sounds good! a floating top of page would be really nice.
thank you again! (And please let me know if/when we exceed the initual quote, as I know this is a lot of work!)
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Do you mean a custom sticky post like what this layout has? Or a sort of overlay on the layout? I also wasn't sure if this was for Neocities or the DW blog. Sorry, I got confused somewhere along the way.
I'll get started on the Neocities site very soon and let you know about my progress when I get the ball rolling.
As for the initial quote, I do think it's going over that, yeah. I'll let you know as soon as I can about the increase. Again, I'm new with most of this so I'm trying to make it a fair price for both of us. Thank you for your patience about it.
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I think the length of the navigation bar on the top may be fine as is, but I'll see how it looks after we add the correct links to it.
Also wanted to know if you wanted to keep the sidebar like in the original layout. And if you did, where did you want to put the social media links? I was originally thinking in a footer but wanted to ask first.
Lastly, as for that static post, sorry I got confused again. I looked back and remembered that it is about a custom sticky post in the journal. @.@ I got lost somewhere, lol.
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As for the initial quote, I do think it's going over that, yeah. I'll let you know as soon as I can about the increase.
Absolutely understandable!
I think I've gotten a little confused about the sticky post too as we've gone along; so many juggling balls in the air! Despite my late reply, I've been thinking a bit these past few days to get it all sorted, and I wonder if it would be possible to do a sticky post (like what you linked in your comment) - maybe with the same kind of simple outline as the layout and/or the userpic frames?
Separate from that, I realized that I was thinking of a custom code, as I described in my comment above. However, I realize that I didn't explain that properly in the original ask, so (apart from the neocities extra work/hours of course), I realize this would be an extra cost! In thinking about this, I'd like to put the custom code in the sticky post, but I understand those are different things. Would it be helpful if I sketched the custom code?
As for the neocities, it looks great! (And familiar is perfect :D )
I think the length of the navigation bar on the top may be fine as is, but I'll see how it looks after we add the correct links to it.
Makes sense!
About the sidebar, I'm not quite sure. I think, mobile-adapting-wise, it might be easier to not have a sidebar, but what do you recommend? Social media links would definitely work in a footer!
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Re; the custom code! I'm finally on the same page as you, lol. This is totally do-able. I'll probably have to send you a little snippet to add on to your layout code, but it'll be fine otherwise. If you don't mind doing a little sketch of what you're picturing for the code itself, I'd really appreciate it. As for placement of the post, would you like it to be with the rest of the entries but stylized different or somewhere else entirely, like between the navigation links and the entries/sidebar area?
Re; Neocities! I'm really glad you like the design! I was hoping it wasn't too much of the same, lol, but I'm glad it's working for you so far. c:
As for what I recommend about the sidebar, I think that depends on how much important info you think will be needed in there. If you have a lot of info that can be summed up in short form, a lot of links, highlights for certain members, awards/contests/announcements, or even a sign-in mechanic/chatroom widget, then a sidebar would work great. If you just have social media links and the like, then it's not really necessary. In fact, at that point, it'll probably just add clutter.
For now, I can make the sidebar an optional tool. That way you can see what this will look like with and without it. I could also go a step further and have it so you can toggle it into existence or something yourself in the future, in case you decide you want it/don't want it later on.
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A snippet to add onto the code sounds good! It took me longer to reply because I tried to mock something up in figma and realized that was a bad idea (it was taking me way too long) so I did something up in sketches; I hope it makes sense?
I had two ideas: idea one would be if the pinned post could stretch across the top maybe:
If not, it could just be inline with the other posts:
Either way, maybe a double line border or light blue background or something harmonious with the layout could distinguish it?
Of course, on mobile, it would probably look the same either way (primary sidebar stuff, pinned post, other posts, then secondary sidebar stuff).
For the code snippet, I think (?) it's possible to have floating divs be side by side in desktop, then tile on mobile, based on the code examples I linked earlier, but I'm not a pro at inline css so if it's not please let me know! I'd described the code in a previous comment but the rough layout idea is:
mobile:
desktop:
On to the website, we pretty much just have social links and maybe a link to team order lists, so I think you're right about keeping it more streamlined. An option tool sounds good though, as we might end up needing it later.
I realize that you may have (likely) moved onto other things in the meantime so whenever you have time! Also, please let me know when we've exceeded the $140 and what I should top up, with the website developing and how I didn't explain about the pinned post and post code.
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First off, about the pinned post code, this looks great. I can totally stretch it across the top, yes, and I should easily be able to change the bits inside from vertical to horizontal depending on screen width. Because of the nature of inline-CSS, it may sometimes try to make two rows of 2 and 1 instead of one row of 3 or three rows of 1 (I really hope that makes sense). I'm going to try to make it so it doesn't do that, but I'm not sure there are ways to prevent it on a site like Dreamwidth that only uses HTML and CSS.
I'll make a little mock-up soon and get back to you with this! It shouldn't take me long to put together. :)
Now the website! I'll have the sidebar removed by default, but will also make sure there's a way for you to easily add it back in again.
Lastly, the money! I think I'll feel more confident if I give you that quote once we're all done, that way I can factor in time spent and things like that. Everything feels very straightforward so far, but I know from experience that unforeseen problems can cause a headache out of nowhere, and I haven't really started on the main part of the website yet (ie, how the posts work, how you'll be able to add more, how people will be able to view them, etc.). I'm sorry I'm not being very upfront about a specific price again, but I don't want to give you too low or (WORSE) too high a number before we're done.
Anyway, thank you for your patience. I'm sorry this is taking so long to finish up. Again, I hope you feel better soon! I'll be in contact shortly about that pinned post code!
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Unfortunately, despite my big talk, I don't think I can stretch it across the top, after all. This is what I have so far on the layout side of things. I'm going to keep working with it, but I think trying to put it across the top is going to do more harm than good, because the height won't be dynamic. Meaning, if the post ends up being smaller or taller than the limits I put in (or if you remove the sticky entry entirely), then everything else will end up staying where it is, making huge gaps or overlaps. This is because of how I had to set up the layout in the first place for the navigation links.
I also tried to just stretch it across the white space it's in, but the sidebar doesn't want to move much. It's the same problems/reasons for stretching this post across the top, too. The thing is, I totally feel like there is a way to do this right, but it'll probably require a good overhaul of how the layout is set up.
If I can't figure it out, I can scale down the entry code to fit better. Sorry for hitting such a ridiculous problem, lol. Let me know what you think of this look for the layout, though, and I'll keep fighting with it. o7
EDIT: Oh, sorry, one more thing about the entry code itself. When you click to expand the text for each block, I have two different styles. The first block has the links as buttons and the second/third has them as blocks. Let me know which ones you like best! Thanks!
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